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Sluggman42  
#1 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2024 10:08:19 AM(UTC)


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https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/superior/notices/?cid=FSEPRD1174552

I suspect many who regularly travel to the BWCA already know, but the Forest Service has stated that only "bear resistant" containers are now allowed to store food in unless you comply with the hanging requirements (which most find impossible).  

This means no more "blue barrels".  Also you have to constantly keep an eye on anything with a smell, including not just food, but lip balm and toothpaste at all times.  This means no more dumping your pack at the end of the portage and going back for the next load. 

Many better/more instructive reviews out there, but this should get you thinking about it at least.   Won't go into all my personal opinions about this other than to say that my next trip isn't likely to be south of the border....   

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HowardSprague  
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:38:56 PM(UTC)


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I can't see the portage technicality possibly being enforced. A solo paddler would have to carry the food pack/barrel over, take it back to pick up the canoe and any other stuff, then carry it over again. A pretty absurd scenario. And hanging at a portage - when you're trying to hastily move out and get out of the way of other groups - not doable.
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Ben Strege on 5/11/2024(UTC)
Ben Strege  
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2024 10:28:36 PM(UTC)


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After reading Sluggman42's post, I read the order again to see if the portage scenario was a possibility. And, I guess, technically, according to how it is written, you would not be able to leave the food pack at the portage. However, I think this is more an oversight in the wording and not the actual intent of the order. I doubt it would be enforced.

This order has been discussed ad naseum in other forums and groups. For me personally, it has zero impact since I always hang my food. I only have stayed in one campsite where it was impossible (in the Cavity Lake burn area), and I put the food with pots and pans on top to alert me if there was a problem. I was already considering a bear vault because of this even before the order came out.

OhPaddler  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 4, 2024 3:09:30 PM(UTC)


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I need a bear resistant 60L solution. A blue barrel, constructed of Kevlar/Carbon, fiberglass infused resin, steel or aluminum. We ended up purchasing 2 Ursack Major 2xl's - which will cover us for the trips we are taking which only need one barrel. Later in the season, we have a 12-14 day BWCA trip for 5 + dog. We pack fairly light at around 1.75L capacity/person/day - and absolutely fill both barrels for our longer trips.
BillConner  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 5, 2024 6:38:04 AM(UTC)


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There are a lot of coolers that meet the IGBC criteria in the 60 litre range. Just have to figure out backpack. I think the BV500 at 11+ liters is largest canister.
Ben Strege  
#6 Posted : Friday, June 7, 2024 9:43:42 AM(UTC)


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Originally Posted by: BillConner Go to Quoted Post
There are a lot of coolers that meet the IGBC criteria in the 60 litre range. Just have to figure out backpack. I think the BV500 at 11+ liters is largest canister.

I just purchased a BV500 and used it on my solo trip. It worked well for my solo trip, but it is too small for groups larger than 1 or 2. I might have to get an Ursack, too, which will hold more food.

Since I usually hang anyway, I didn't really have to get a canister. I had been eyeing them, though, even before the order because I had run into a couple of situations where there were no hanging trees (i.e. Cavity Lake burn area).

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