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Ben Strege  
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:58:32 PM(UTC)
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When I originally started MN Canoeing three years ago, the website was going to be focused on the BWCA and other Minnesota water trails, hence the name. Then I was able to expand into the Quetico, and it has become a big part of the site. I may also expand into other areas, such as Woodland Caribou, Wabakimi, Atikaki, and other states/provinces. The website name no longer really fits the site and my future plans. Does anyone have some name suggestions they would like to throw out there?

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paddlenutz  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:30:02 PM(UTC)
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How about "Northwoods Canoe Tripping," or "Northwoods Canoeing?"
Ben Strege  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:17:27 PM(UTC)
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How about "Northwoods Canoe Tripping," or "Northwoods Canoeing?"

I hadn't thought of that one - thanks. The one that we were planning on going with is Paddle Planner. It doesn't limit the site geographically and explains in a short phrase what this site does. What do you think? Is there something I'm not thinking of? I'm planning on rolling out the new name when I add Sylvania in a week or two.

Gavia  
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:29:29 PM(UTC)
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You want to attract people who go canoe camping?  Try Canoe Camping.  Canoetripping is already taken.  Or you could just expand geographically and call it NACanoeing (North America), or CanoeingNA.  PaddleCamp?

old salt  
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:32:19 PM(UTC)
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Ben Strege  
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:32:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavia Go to Quoted Post

You want to attract people who go canoe camping?  Try Canoe Camping.  Canoetripping is already taken.  Or you could just expand geographically and call it NACanoeing (North America), or CanoeingNA.  PaddleCamp?

Canoecamping.com is taken - but I can buy it for $2,000!

Gavia  
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:06:17 PM(UTC)
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Scam?
Ben Strege  
#8 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 7:04:49 AM(UTC)
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Scam?

I don't think so - it just looks like this company bought a bunch of BWCA-related domain names in the hopes that someone would buy them.

overloaded  
#9 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 7:24:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavia Go to Quoted Post
</p><p>You want to attract people who go canoe camping? &nbsp;Try Canoe Camping. &nbsp;Canoetripping is already taken. &nbsp;Or you could just expand geographically and call it NACanoeing (North America), or CanoeingNA. &nbsp;PaddleCamp?</p><p>
</p><p><a href="http://canoecamping.com/" target="_blank">Canoecamping.com</a> is taken - but I can buy it for $2,000!</p>


I would offer $500 and see what they say. They are still making good money.

paddlenutz  
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:43:52 AM(UTC)
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How about "Northwoods Canoe Tripping," or "Northwoods Canoeing?"

I hadn't thought of that one - thanks. The one that we were planning on going with is Paddle Planner. It doesn't limit the site geographically and explains in a short phrase what this site does. What do you think? Is there something I'm not thinking of? I'm planning on rolling out the new name when I add Sylvania in a week or two.

How about "Paddling Adventure Planner", "Adventure Paddling Planner," or Expedition Paddling Planner?"

Gavia  
#11 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:19:27 AM(UTC)
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Keep it short and don't emphasize the planning part in the name. It seems unlikely people will use a site much that's primarily about trip planning.
old salt  
#12 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:50:28 AM(UTC)
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Gavia  
#13 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 1:12:37 PM(UTC)
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I like the way this site is being developed.  But I've also been thinking that there may be too many canoe tripping sites.  There's this one, Quiet Journey, and canoetripping.net, not to mention BWCA.com.  I'd leave that last one alone but I could see merging the other three.

Ben Strege  
#14 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:44:47 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for all of your suggestions.

Originally Posted by: Gavia Go to Quoted Post
Keep it short and don't emphasize the planning part in the name. It seems unlikely people will use a site much that's primarily about trip planning.

So, what should I emphasize? I should probably explain the vision that I have. I'm trying to expand the RouteFinder to other areas besides the BWCA/Quetico. Some areas I'm trying to go to are:

  • Sylvania Wilderness Area (basically done, just need to put it on the website)
  • Algonquin Provincial Park
  • Woodland Caribou Provincial Park
  • Wabakimi Provincial Park
  • Atikaki, Whiteshell, and Nopiming Provincial Parks
  • Apostle Islands
  • Allagash Wilderness Waterway
  • Saint Regis Canoe Area
  • Various other small canoeing regions, such as some state parks
  • Some popular paddling rivers

As you can see from the areas, I'm hoping to appeal to both canoeists and kayakers, so I probably need to use paddle or paddling instead of canoe or canoeing. (I'm a canoeist, so I've been very biased towards that.) Some of the areas are more day-tripping than camping, but I think the site will always be mostly about paddle camping.

I'm also working on a trip planning app - packing lists, group coordination, maps, etc. 

What is this site about if it isn't planning? Why do you come here?

I agree completely with keeping it short. But how to do that and still encompass everything this site is and will be about?

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Wildpaddles.

Taken. I may be able to buy it, but I don't really want to... Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Originally Posted by: Gavia Go to Quoted Post

I like the way this site is being developed.  But I've also been thinking that there may be too many canoe tripping sites.  There's this one, Quiet Journey, and canoetripping.net, not to mention BWCA.com.  I'd leave that last one alone but I could see merging the other three.

I think you missed a few 



jeemon  
#15 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:49:26 PM(UTC)
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Just brainstorming. Not sure if it's helpful.

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jeemon  
#16 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:28:29 AM(UTC)
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Jibwah.com

Means "before" in Ojibway. As in, before you set out on your trip.
Gavia  
#17 Posted : Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:37:40 PM(UTC)
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Channeling Izaak Walton, "The Compleat Canoeist" or compleatcanoeing.com.  Note that a kayak is just a low, double-ended canoe.

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